Shaving with Refreshing Mint

Every time I use this soap, I’m reminded of how much I truly enjoy it. I’m talking about Soapy Bathman’s Refreshing Mint. For me, this is an amazing soap that, unfortunately, is no longer in production. My tub will last me a long time, but I wish everyone could experience this remarkable shaving soap. The scent is exactly what it promises: refreshing. Combined with the cool touch of menthol, there’s simply nothing better to awaken your senses during a shave.

Since the tub holds a generous puck of soap, I prefer to bloom it by adding a bit of warm water, which softens the surface and makes loading the brush effortless. I then proceeded to face lather, which worked perfectly. The soap immediately produces a thick, creamy lather with excellent slickness and glide. As I applied it, I felt it spread evenly into my beard, laying down a smooth barrier that allowed my razor to perform flawlessly. But what really stood out was the post-shave feel—it was terrific. The invigorating scent of mint paired with the cooling menthol left my skin feeling refreshed and revitalized.

Zomchi Safety Razor Review

A week or so ago, I received an email asking if I wanted to review the Zomchi Safety Razor. I checked out the website and thought it would be a good fit for the channel, so I agreed. The company asked for an honest review, and that’s exactly what I’ve done.

The package arrived in a simple mailer, and the box for the razor was attractive. The back of the box included instructions and a little information about the company. Although it came with blades branded with the Zomchi logo, I decided to use Personna Blades I had from a previous review of a disposable Gillette razor years ago.

Shaving With Dark Matter

So far, the review feedback for Dark Matter has been positive. What turned out to be something I ruined by not being able to smell the scent turned out to be the right thing for the project. The dark color does add a nice touch to the soap as well. For the next run, I want to make it slightly darker to highlight the stars in the soap which can only be seen that way.

This soap takes longer to make than the others due to the amount of time it takes to add the scent over and over again you can't rush that sort of thing.

I think it's clear that we are going to keep Dark Matter in our Wet The Face Line up most likely we will see a new batch in January sometime.

In this video, I also touch on watching a movie from 1998 called Meet Joe Black

I Forgot To Shave!

So last Sunday I got back home late and was so exhausted I knew I had to get up at 4AM the next morning I went right to sleep. An hour later I jumped out of bed and yelled "I forgot to Shave" so I quickly set up the camera and grabbed something I use in these situations the shaving cream called Deep.

As soon as this touches water lather in an instant quick reliable and easy. The scent is great as well. I'm sorry if this one was not like the others I've done. I did the best I could under the circumstances. Soon we will have some new hardware to test I hope it will make up for this short video and article for this week.

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As Always be kind to one another 

Don Youngner

Wet The Face

Macintosh Apples - Fall Release

Part two of the fall releases continues with Macintosh Apples. This Fall, Wet The Face offers a shaving soap that will bring you back to when the whole family would join in to go out apple-picking at your local farm. This spot-on scent of Macintosh Apples holds memories that reach back to better times with families and friends, to a place when doing things together mattered.

Experience the nostalgic aroma every morning with our artisan Macintosh Apples Shaving Soap, crafted with care for the perfect wet shave. Make your routine a cherished moment, embracing the past while enjoying a smooth, refreshing shave. There is nothing better than taking that first bite.

Notes - Sweet, Tart, Macintosh Apples with a bottom note of musk

Don Youngner
Wet The Face

Wet The Face Fall Releases

Today I'm excited to release our Fall shaving soaps and aftershave. We sold out of them very fast last year we only make one round of each so keep that in mind because once they are gone that's it.

Our first release will be Fallen Leaves an amazing scent for the season. This one sold out fast last year so we had many requests for it to come back so it is here but will not make an appearance for 2025. Layers of Aromatic Splendor: At the top, zesty bursts of Orange Juice intermingle with Bergamot's bright and invigorating notes, creating an initial sensation of freshness that awakens the senses. Delicate hints of Rose Petals lend a touch of elegance, setting the stage for the journey ahead. The base notes of Blue Spruce and Vetiver deepen the olfactory experience, immersing you in the tranquil embrace of a wooded sanctuary. These elements capture the essence of towering trees and cool forest air, anchoring the fragrance in a sense of comfort and warmth.

Shaving With St James Of London

Today I'm using St James Of London and if you never heard of this brand let me fill you in brother. St. James of London is a British luxury grooming brand specializing in high-quality, all-natural men's shaving and grooming products. The company is known for its classic, elegant formulations and is positioned as a premium option in wet shaving. Here's an overview of what the brand offers: Some Key Features are:

Heritage and Tradition:
Established in 1953, St. James of London reflects a long-standing British tradition of grooming, offering products that blend modern formulations with classic, timeless scents.

Dark Matter - New From Wet The Face

Introducing Dark Matter Shaving Soap Inspired by the Apple TV series has an amazing note structure, blending Dark Vetiver, Dark Amber, and Dark Clove with rosewood and cedar, taking you deeper into the Dark.

At Wet The Face, our love for wet shaving shines through in every artisan product we create. Inspired by the concept of time travel, it evokes the thrill and mystery of shifting through time with the cube, reminding you that every detail matters but be warned there are consequences.

Transform your shaving experience with this richly complex soap, perfect for those seeking adventure and quality. Dive into the depths of Dark Matter and let Wet The Face elevate your daily routine.

Shaving With Cuban Tobacco

Today we use Cuban Tobacco one of the best-selling shaving soaps at Wet The Face. I had created 4 shaving soap in my early days and this was one of them. This product combines the timeless allure of Cuban tobacco with the art of wet shaving, creating a truly unique and indulgent experience. One of the fascinating aspects of this shaving soap is the way its scent resonates differently with each person who purchases it, evoking a range of emotions and memories.

To some, the scent transports them to idyllic evenings in Havana, where the sweet aroma of tobacco leaves hangs in the air, mingling with the rich spices and hints of leather. The fragrance awakens their senses, bringing back cherished moments of relaxation and sophistication.

Shaving With Athos

Today we use Athos the first in the series of The 3 Musketeers. Athos Shaving Soap, inspired by the iconic character from "The Three Musketeers." Athos, renowned for his wisdom and stoicism, serves as the leader of the musketeers, guiding his comrades with his keen insight and unwavering resolve. As D'Artagnan's trusted mentor and closest confidant, Athos embodies loyalty and honor, sharing a deep bond with his fellow musketeers, Aramis and Porthos.

Capturing the essence of Athos' enigmatic persona, our Athos shaving soap boasts a captivating blend of fragrances. Delight your senses with the refreshing notes of Black Currant and Lemon, intertwined with the refreshing essence of Bergamot. The delicate floral tones of Gardenia, Orchid, Lotus, and Jasmine add an elegant touch, while earthy hints of Patchouli and Cedar evoke a sense of mystery and depth. Finished with warm undertones of Amber and Sweet Musk, Athos shaving soap leaves a lingering scent of sophistication and intrigue.

Palmolive Shaving Stick

This all started the day my friend Frank emailed me after I did my shaving stick videos in April. He told me that he had a Palmolive shaving stick that he wanted to give me to try. Now most wet shavers know that the Palmolive Shaving stick is no longer made so finding one is nearly impossible but having someone send a new one to you is just amazing. I expressed I was very grateful to him and would love to have the chance to experience this. He told me he would send it out.

As time passed not once did I ever bother Frank asking him about the stick I knew if the wet shaving gods wanted me to have one it would arrive and then in May Frank contacted me again and said he didn't have a chance to send it (traveling) but he hoped to send it out the next day after we spoke.

Shaving & Skechers

Today we are using a soap from the Dirty Girls series called Test Pilot Mary. This was the first in the series, and it holds a special spot in my heart because the pilot's name is also my wife's. This soap shares something else as well: it comes very close to the popular Dior Men's Sauvage. You can see Johnny Depp in the ad campaign for the cologne.

No movies to report about this week, so I'll be telling you about how I had to buy new sneakers due to how worn out my old ones had gotten. My sneakers only last about two years before the soles start peeling off. I was told that instead of only buying one pair and wearing them until they were worn out, I should buy two pairs and alternate them. That sounds good, but I'm not the kind of person who would do that until now.

Shaving & Talking #21

Today we use Lodge 49 in our shaving & Talking #21. If you don't know this soap it was born out of the love for a TV series of the same name. I thought it would make a perfect soap and an homage to the canceled series. Truly one of the most interesting series around, alas we will never know what happens in the end.

On the other hand, the shave was fantastic as you can see by the video we produced an amount of lather that we could shave five men, with two passes each. The slickness and glide are above average and the post-shave feel was great.

A few weeks ago I signed up for Apple TV and man I have been watching some good shows. 

Heiwa - New From Wet The Face

Today I'm proud to Introduce a new release from Wet The Face called HEIWA, which brings peace and tranquility to your daily shaving routine. We sure are in some crazy times now. and right now is a good time to enjoy your shave without the pressures of the world even if it's just for a little while and experience some peace and harmony.

The label features a serene scene of a tranquil temple surrounded by woods and water, embodying the essence of peace in Japanese culture.

Engima Shave

In Today's video, I go back to when I first started collecting shaving soap and found a tin of Enigma in my den. I have had this for some time now and it still performs just as it did when I purchased it 5 or 6 years ago. The scent has kept its strength along with every note and what a scent it is.

The one I have came in a tin that's when tins were all the rage back then now of course most artisans use plastic tubs which I think turned out for the better in the long run. However, plastic is a sin, so until they come up with something else I'll have to stick with using plastic tubs.

Name That Puck!

Today I'm using a puck that will be part of a contest for YouTube subscribers. If you can name the puck I'm using in this video and be the first one to leave in the comments the company name and what the puck is called, you will win a shaving soap from Wet The Face.

Lemon Ice Shave / New Shaving Bowl

Today is a great day to use Frozen Lemon Ice. The hot weather this past week was so brutal that I didn't want to leave my house. Shaving with Frozen Lemon Ice certainly helped cool me down a bit.

That being said, my main focus has been on our new ceramic shaving bowl. Amy has been diligently working on creating three prototypes for us to choose from, and we have now settled on one, with minor tweaks here and there. Our first shave using this bowl will be featured in today's video. All feedback has been funneled to her, and she is now making the necessary corrections before starting a production run.

Barbasol Shave - First Time User

People give me all kinds of things for shaving. Especially family and friends a year ago I received a Barbasol shaving cream from my wife's friend who went out of her way to pick it up and send it to me. When I thanked her over the phone I went crazy for it and told her it was the best shaving cream I have ever used and I use it all the time. When I think of that act of kindness it brings tears to my eyes just thinking that not only did she visit Mary at home and in the nursing home but she took the time to think of me as well and wanted to make me happy. You couldn't have a better friend than that.

I have never used Barbasol until this shave so you can say I'm a first-time user. I was shocked to feel the lather and how thick it was it almost begs to be hot. One could say it was pumped up with air but I'm not 100% sure that was happening here.

Unforgettable Shave

Today, I'm excited to use our new release again, Unforgettable. However, recently, I've received feedback from two customers that the scent was somewhat weak. While it's only been two customers so far, I wanted to reach out and ask if anyone else has experienced the same issue.

Before you respond, please consider the following:

1) You must have purchased Unforgettable.
2) You should have shaved and used the soap, not just smelled it from the tub. 

The true strength of a soap's scent can only be judged when it's in use. If you'd like to share your experience, contact me at MrDon@WetTheFace.com. I appreciate your feedback and look forward to hearing from you.

Shaving & Talking #20

In today's shaving & talking I take a cue from a long-time friend Joe. I grew up with Joe he was my brother's friend and since we had been roughly the same age I sometimes would insert myself in my brother's group which I'm sure he did not appreciate. Joe is the type of guy that would make you laugh in just 5min of meeting him.

Joe is an avid user of Wet The Face and he told me what he uses during the summer months and during the rest of the season the one he picked for summer was Salty Sea Air and it just makes perfect sense so I decided to use it in this weeks video.

ATHOS - New From Wet The Face

Today I'm excited to announce a new themed shaving soap & aftershave based on the Three Musketeers Athos, Porthos, and Arimis. Athos will be our first release. If the series goes well we could create one for D'Artagnan.

Athos, renowned for his wisdom and stoicism, serves as the leader of the musketeers, guiding his comrades with his keen insight and unwavering resolve. As D'Artagnan's trusted mentor and closest confidant, Athos embodies loyalty and honor, sharing a deep bond with his fellow musketeers, Aramis and Porthos.

The Pearl Box Part Two

So we go back to the Pearl Box for another round of products and are using the Pearl Classic Safety Razor this time. This razor has a very impressive finish one that took me by surprise. An antique brass finish that makes this razor stand out from the others in its price 

range.

A nice-looking razor means nothing unless the way it shaves is equally impressive and this one accomplishes that with no problem. For only $30.00 this razor packs a lot of high marks on my chart, the handle has a wonderful grip which allows excellent handling, easy blade loading, and cleaning you must take the razor apart but it's not a problem this is an easy thing to accomplish.

As most of you know when I shave I already come to the den with around 6 to 7 days of growth and this razor took it off with ease. Now, I'm saying this is going to happen for you since we all use different blades so take that information with you before you purchase.

Pearl Sent Me a Box Of Products

Last week, I received an email from The Pearl Shaving Company informing me that they had sent a package for review. When the package arrived, it was filled with various products. Unfortunately, I had already made videos featuring some of these items. Nevertheless, I was eager to use everything in the box, so this will be part one of a two-part video series.

First, we will use the Pearl Slant Safety Razor with the SS 316L handle. In the past, when I received the Flexi and the Hammer, they were presented in the most impressive packaging. However, this time, the packaging is quite conservative—one might even call it understated compared to the others. That said, you don't shave with the box, so the razor is what truly matters, and to me, it's a winner.

Shaving & Talking #19

In this shaving and talking I decided to use The Sport Of Kings, easy to lather, great scent what's not to like? Since this was the dupe of Polo Sport Blue I went with using the Nebula shaving bowl. What a stunning bowl it is, I love how it changes colors depending on how it's being held in the light.

I created an amazing lather and the shave was one I needed badly since I missed my Sunday shave and had to wait until I had a full 8 days of growth. Even at work, my friend noticed I didn't shave wondering what was wrong. I told them I completely forgot since I had so much to do which was the truth.

Unforgettable New From Wet The Face

I'm excited to Introduce Unforgettable, our latest addition to the Wet The Face shaving soap and after-shave collection. This amazing scent is a woody blend of tobacco, amber, and oud, complemented by fresh notes of mandarin and bergamot. Experience an unforgettable shave as the rich lather makes your skin smooth and moisturized. With its captivating aroma, Unforgettable will surely create lasting memories she will never forget. I'll be adding this one to my den soon it's that good.

Elevate your shaving routine with this exceptional soap and leave a lasting impression with its irresistible scent.

Shaving With Land Ho!

Today I reached back into the review box from the past and pulled out two products from Captain's Choice, Land HO!'s shaving cream and balm. No bowl lather today but it was a great shave.

The Captain's shaving cream had been lying on its side for a while and when it was opened it revealed the shaving cream had all moved to the side of the tub so I had to mix it up a bit before use. I first thought that maybe the cream was too old to use but that was not the case it just needed a little mixing and it turned right back to when I first received it.

Shaving With La Toja Stick

Today is my first try using the shaving stick La Toja and let me say this now I'm not digging the scent one bit. Now that I have that out of the way I can tell you a little about this regarded shaving stick.

La Toja is a renowned Spanish brand known for its luxurious shaving products, including its iconic shaving stick. La Toja shaving sticks are celebrated for their rich lather and moisturizing properties, providing a smooth and comfortable shaving experience.

Made with natural ingredients, such as mineral salts from the La Toja island off the coast of Galicia in Spain, these shaving sticks offer a unique blend of nourishment and skincare benefits. The mineral salts are believed to have therapeutic properties, soothing the skin and leaving it feeling refreshed after each shave.

First Time Using Speick Shaving Stick

Today I use for the first time a shaving stick called Speick. I have used Arko's stick and on my first try I didn't use it correctly I was brought up on wet shaving charges for misuse of wet shaving equipment with the community. I did go back and make another video doing a stick shave properly. I will use the same method here using Speick.

This all came about during a conversation with my friend Dan he sent me two links to shaving sticks the Speick and the other La Toja. The La Toja has a scent that I clearly point out in the video I do not like but am willing to try in our next video.

The box that this came in has seen better days. Once it was removed from the box you could see the foil-like wrapping which covered the stick. Normally you would peal the foil back every time you need to reach an unused section of the stick. I didn't do that I pealed all the foil off I don't have a problem with doing it that way.

Infinity & Nebula Purple Shaving Bowl

Today I'm proud to introduce a new product from Wet The Face. Introducing 3D-printed shaving bowls. As I've said in the past I set out to learn Fusion 360 and in a few months I felt confident to create a few products and this is one of them.

The inside of our shaving bowl was designed to promote lather creation. The purpose of this specially designed textured bottom is to aid in breaking down the shaving soap or cream, incorporating air into the lather, and evenly distributing it across the bristles of the shaving brush. This process results in a thick, creamy lather that softens the beard hair, moisturizes the skin, and provides lubrication for a close, irritation-free shave.

Dirty Girl Betty New From Wet The Face

Today I'm excited to release a new product from Wet The Face, Introducing the latest addition of shaving products: Dirty Girl Betty - Mechanic in both shaving soap and aftershave. Inspired by the fearless women who took on men's challenging and dirty jobs during World War II, this shaving soap is just as tough and resilient as the brave ladies who inspired it.

Crafted with care, Dirty Girls Shaving Soap provides a lather that is rich, creamy, and incredibly smooth, making for an unparalleled shaving experience. Whether you're a seasoned shaving pro or a newcomer to traditional wet shaving, this soap is guaranteed to please.

The Dirty Girls series pays tribute to the women who worked tirelessly to support the war effort and defend our freedom. They were just as proud to be American as the men they fought alongside, and their courage and sacrifice will never be forgotten. Wet The Face is proud to honor these brave women with shaving products embodying their spirit and resilience.

Shaving & Talking #18

Today on shaving & talking I show some of the 3D-printed bowl designs I've been working on. We have two variants, WTF / no side logos / all shaving bowls have Wet The Face on the underside of the bowl. Unfortunately, due to the increased time of adding logos, each one will have a slightly different cost due to additional time and materials. Chuck our CAD designer is working on getting his bowls ready and he has one that takes the shape of our previous bowl from Alford.

I also plan on restocking the coconut bowls in a few weeks. Not only have these been great as shaving bowls, but I use mine for all kinds of things like holding chips, dips, and anything else you can think of.

Yaqi Excalibur and The SEnoch Comparison

Yaqi Excalibur and The SEnoch Comparison:
Today, we delve into the ongoing controversy surrounding the Yaqi Excalibur and The SEnoch from Classic Shaving. While many assume these razors are identical, why is Classic Shaving pricing them at $60 when they're available for $20 on Aliexpress? I set out to uncover the truth.

Shaving With PipeSmoke

Today I'm using the old stand-by PipeSmoke it never fails to impress me with just how amazing this scent is. The lather is just crazy rich and creamy the slickness and glide allow me to be aggressive with the single-edge razor. I can go over trouble spots without fear of irritation. The post-shave feel is always a pleasure.

My discussion this week in this video surrounds the Excaliber Vs Enoch are they the same? All signs point to yes so far. I did get the Excalibur order in and quickly looked and the razor head they are similar in appearance but I have not shaved with it yet which I will leave for the upcoming video. If this turns out to be the same product and Mr. Webster is just reselling the Excalibur as his own branded razor then I going to seek a refund and I encourage others to do the same because he has lied to us all. On the other hand, if Yaqi razors are working with him (like he said in our conversation) to come out with a razor based on the Excaliber then he is going to have to show me where the differences are (handle not included). For someone such as myself who supported his Occam razor line, I at least deserve to be told the truth we all do.

3D Printed Shaving Bowls & Followup

I've been focused on 3D printing projects for Wet The Face. We had another surge in sales with our stands that Chuck created. The 7-slot version seems to be the biggest seller right now. I can design elementary things but when it comes to complicated objects well, I turn to Chuck.

I was searching for a shaving bowl and came across one that looked like one piece of rope shaped into a small bowl. I thought this just might work let me print it and see. It did a good job of making lather but the soap that did not dissolve was found in the rope texture of the design. Then I came across one that I've seen on many maker sites. This design seemed to be the favorite with a ton of downloads counts. So I tried that one and you can see it in action because I used it in today's YouTube video. I have to say it worked very well.

The SE Noch Razor Review

Finally, a new razor was released by Occam's Razor Team called SE Noch. I had no idea this was going on until my friend Dan pointed it out to me via email. I just had to order one since it was in my price range. The list price is $195.00 but on sale now for $59.98. I would have NEVER purchased it at the higher price.

The packaging has not changed over the years from the Occams Razor line and I had no problems with it. This is a single-edge razor and takes the same blades as the other two razors I have from the Occam's team the original Occams and the N.A.N.O. I happened to use the Feather Pro Guard in all of them.

Past Razor Reviews & Nivea Deep

Today, we will look past the shaving creams and soaps and concentrate on hardware. I've done over 480 videos so far with most of our new subscribers having no idea of the past razor reviews I've done. So here is a look back at just some of the ones that I've reviewed.

Listed below are searchable videos on my YouTube channel which I've shown in this video. If you want me to use any of them let me know in the comments section and the one that is asked for the most will be the one I use in the future.

eShave White Tea

Today I use one of the better scented shaving creams called White Tea from eShave. If you have never tried an eShave product maybe now would be a good time. eShave was created in 1996 by Danielle Malka 28 years ago. I would consider this a high-end product with a high-end price but in this guy's opinion, it is well worth it.

You don't need a lot on the brush to create a great lather, nor do you need to use a brush this shaving cream is good with both methods. I prefer a brush and it handles it with perfection. The leather was amazing, it got right into the beard and provided great coverage. The slickness and glide reach the top of the scales providing an irrational free shave. The post-shave feel was another chart-topper.

Gillette Heritage DE & Aveeno Gel

Today we flip everything around. We ditch the shaving soap for shaving cream gel in a can. Aveeno is the shaving gel of choice. We then decided to shave with a DE razor which came out a few years ago called the Gillette Heritage. This was offered on Amazon by Gillette which received lots of attention from the wet shaving community. It came in the classic brown clamshell case with a rich brown interior lining but it was not real leather. This was a closed-comb three-piece DE Razor with a premium, chrome-plated handle, the kind from years ago.

FairHope Soap Company / Him - Key West

We change it up in this week's video. Today I'm returning to the Rockwell Razor T1 which took about 2 years to finally start shipping. Once it was released a few months later they found an issue with the internal rod which I think was responsible for keeping things together. It would break for no reason so they fixed that and sent me another one. ( I never had an issue with the original one )

We are also using a soap from FairHope Shaving Soap Company called Him the scent is Key West. It's one of the best I've had the pleasure of using. Unfortunately, I looked at the website and they don't offer that scent anymore. Next, the brush I'm using today is the Frank Shave brush a short handle with a great backbone synthetic just an all-around great brush.

Shaving With Sapone Di Paolo

Today's shaving soap is one that I've seen in my den many times but neglected to use for a long while. I can't give you a reason why it just worked out that way. The soap I'm talking about is Sapone Di Paolo. So many companies start out under one name and then as the company grows things change and so does Sapone Di Paolo. Its new name is called Eleven. I'm sure the formula for the soaps has changed but this soap seems to still be in the public eye as a collector's item and for good reason it's amazing.

Just watch the video and you'll see how thick rich and creamy this lather is and how it gets right into the beard with perfect coverage. The slickness and glide are above average providing protection from irritation allowing you to go over trouble spots without fear. The post-shave feel was also above average.

Shaving with The Flying Mango

Flying Mango shaving soap is back! Today's shaving soap was introduced in 2015 and was supposed to be a limited edition made in Italy by Saponificio Varesino exclusively for BullGoose Shaving. It utilizes Saponificio Varesino's latest Beta 4.3 formula with added mango butter for superior skin conditioning.

The scent is complex. At first whiff, you get hints of tobacco leaves. The top note is citrusy and slightly balsamic, the body aromatic with a hint of floral and lavender while the base is woody and musky.

As you can see by the video this soap lathers pretty well gets right into the beard and provides wonderful coverage. The slickness and glide are above average and provide protection from irritation.

Shaving & Turner Classic Movies

For my first shave of 2024, I selected one of the soaps I use off-camera and on. It has been around for over 460 years, but not much has changed in the way of formula. I'm talking about De Vergulde Hand Shaving Soap. I found out they have a line of additional products like the aftershave balm I'd like to try. So already 2024 is starting out on a wonderful note.

If you never heard of this soap my advice would be to give it a try. One word before you purchase, if you looking for a scent that knocks you over the head then this one is not for you. What it does have is a rich creamy lather with plenty of slickness and glide allowing you to have a carefree shave void of irritation. The post-shave feel is also impressive.